PORTSMOUTH TO ENTER TIER 4 FROM MIDNIGHT – GOVERNMENT SAYS ‘STAY AWAY’

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Portsmouth will be thrown into Tier 4 restrictions from midnight tonight (Saturday) with the Government very clearly stating that people shouldn’t travel to or from the area, throwing up questions about ferry travel to the Isle of Wight.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson announced in a press conference from Downing Street this afternoon that millions of people in London and the South East – including Portsmouth, Gosport and Havant – will find themselves under tough Tier 4 lockdown restrictions from tomorrow.

Those in Tier 4 areas are being told not to travel outside of their local community and those in Tiers 1 to 3 are being told not to travel into Tier 4 zones.

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Alarmingly, Wightlink’s Fishbourne car ferry and Fastcat catamaran service both travel to Portsmouth, with Hovertravel’s Ryde to Southsea service also landing in the Tier 4 restricted area. Both cross-Solent operators employ people living in the City of Portsmouth.

It is unclear this hour how these latest restrictions will affect those travelling to and from the Island via Portsmouth.

Islanders hoping to get some last minute Christmas shopping in Pompey will instead have to travel to Southampton, with all non-essential retail closing in Portsmouth in the next 7 hours.

The restrictions will remain in place until at least 30th December when the Government will review the tiers. However, there is growing concern that the whole country will be thrown into a third national lockdown in January.

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In response to this evening’s news, many Islanders are calling for pubs and hotels in Ryde to check IDs for local addresses amid fears those from Portsmouth will hop across the Solent.

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William-Reynolds
William-Reynolds
2 months ago

Left it too late now. ‘They’ are already here.

Those Apples
Those Apples
Reply to  William-Reynolds
2 months ago

Exactly, ‘PLACES’ don’t have cv, PEOPLE do. Few would go to Portsmouth to eat or drink, so WHY do it here now they have ‘arrived’?

Real Islander
Real Islander
Reply to  Those Apples
2 months ago

“Governments and laws operate in a human environment. A policy that only works by suppressing our humanity is unlikely to work at all. Life is risky. A policy that seeks to eliminate risk ends up trying to eliminate life.” Lord Sumption

Dog-Paw
Dog-Paw
Reply to  Real Islander
2 months ago

Freedom of speech has been taken, as we even see on here, something which was once considered a ‘right’. So if that can go, so can anything. Lord Assumption.

Miss sensible
Miss sensible
Reply to  Those Apples
2 months ago

Well let’s all thank them for the lives that it will cost ‘ the job losses the families left bereft through the loss of a loved one etc.
I think they should be rounded up and sent packing back to where they came from.
So all you b and bs hotels and accommodation kick them out and save your staff and their families .
Our Hospital staff our police force save our island .
I for 1 would not visit a pub restaurant b and etc if I knew they had let tier 3/4 stay .

Pompy blue
Pompy blue
Reply to  William-Reynolds
2 months ago

No were just waiting for the boat now to take us over to you.

timid - timm
timid - timm
Reply to  William-Reynolds
2 months ago

And SO is their tiers risk. As it is not the place but the person who ‘carries such’. Avoid all places they frequent.

Horse flaps
Horse flaps
2 months ago

Let’s hope the rumours of this being more aggressive form of CV are unfounded and such is only being said and ‘used’ by HMG to scare us all into being even more safe.

If it really does mutate and start affecting the young in the same way as the old and vulnerable then we all are in deep trouble.

Real Islander
Real Islander
Reply to  Horse flaps
2 months ago

It pays to look at what others are saying about what is happening in U.K. We’re being misled because there really isn’t any evidence that this ‘new’ variant in any way represents a threat. Given the paucity of evidence, why are we locked down again? No lives will be saved.

Staysafe
Staysafe
2 months ago

It doesn’t throw up any questions about travel at all – it’s very clear. No one should enter other leave a Tier 4 area, so use Lymington/Yarmouth or Cowes/Southampton, all ferries into Portsmouth should now be cancelled. That’s following HM Gov rules,

jim
jim
2 months ago

brilliant, all them from the city already here, just have a walk round seaview, how the hall were they allowed to travel to iow, stop anymore travel to island now

Jo.Jits
Jo.Jits
Reply to  jim
2 months ago

Bembridge is worse. Imagine the pubs a breeding ground for cv to infect the in digenous here.

They should be now all closed by law, as people are too thick to not go IF they are open.

Shops have food, beer, etc, there is NO NEED to go out to eat, ALL Have cookers USE THEM

This new variant seems very a ggressive and if it take the young we are done for.

Jam shed .
Jam shed .
Reply to  Jo.Jits
2 months ago

Are you volunteering to support all the staff who would lose their jobs then ?

Dog-Paw
Dog-Paw
Reply to  Jam shed .
2 months ago

No need for anyone to volunteer, as social security will pay their rent, feed, clothe, heat their homes UNTIL the vaccine returns life to normal

WILL YOU pay for their funerals if their family are stricken, and children made orphans?

Dfl
Dfl
Reply to  Jo.Jits
2 months ago

The more I read this the less sense it makes

Dog-Paw
Dog-Paw
Reply to  Dfl
2 months ago

Fear not, adult learning classes will start again in the New Year, you seem suitable for free help

Islander
Islander
Reply to  jim
2 months ago

I hear on Monday and Tuesday the ferries are full coming across. What now!! Unfortunately those hoping to go to the hospital for treatment should stay this side too.

Churppie
Churppie
2 months ago

The huge amount of car drivers not knowing where they are going in Bembridge proves how many are down for the break. No pub will be safe to go to with this new variant of cv, far far easier to catch and less choosy about the age of the victim to cause potentially serious harm We should have stopped all the ferries bar one a day. This could turn really nasty now, as before although frightening for the older people and those at risk groups, it seems now, all groups and ages are more at risk with the mutations occurring so quickly. Let’s hope the vaccine is still effective and they should get it out, before the mutation renders it useless soon. We have to have a different vaccine for flu each year, BUT the virus doesn’t ‘wait’ a year to ‘alter itself’. This can occur days after you have… Read more »

The Equaliser
The Equaliser
2 months ago

Warners Bembridge is heaving with people from London Yorkshire and the Midlands

Those Apples
Those Apples
Reply to  The Equaliser
2 months ago

Anyone from the Island who drinks or eats out imo deserves all they are likely to get. Totally selfish, as, as you rightly say, Bembridge is full of cars and people from the mainland staying in their second home, BUT they are the ones going out to eat and drink. I wouldn’t care, but when they leave we are left with all those navie Islander who go out to eat and drink in the same place as they do, yet would not go to Portsmouth to drink or eat out, but now the RISK is the same here. Places don’t ‘have’ cv, it is the PEOPLE who DO, and THEY are HERE. THINK for yourselves. This NEW variant is likely more deadly to younger people hence the panic from the Gov, yet to be officially announced as they are trying to gain more info on it atm, so just a… Read more »

Go.gi
Go.gi
Reply to  The Equaliser
2 months ago

Bembridge full of such. Avoid all pubs, and eating establishments, as tier4 people are HERE in droves.

Baby face
Baby face
Reply to  Go.gi
2 months ago

This weekend there’s only about 50 guests at Warners. I know this as a friend of mine works there

Smithy
Smithy
Reply to  Baby face
2 months ago

Only 50? That’s still too many

tipper
tipper
Reply to  Baby face
2 months ago

Thats 50 to many

Dog.Pawl
Dog.Pawl
Reply to  Baby face
2 months ago

This is NOT just about Warners. for MOST of those eat in the place. This is about all those with a second home here, who, are the type to go to pubs and other places where locals eat and drink, who then will spread this deadly virus to them, and ONLY once they have all left, will WE see the damage done to this Island and our low tier level.

All pubs and eating establishments other than take away should be closed, as ‘they’ will now become the hot bed of virus spreading to us all. This new strain is deeply worrying and if as some think it is far more contagious and could affect the young, then surely the risk of one plate of average yet expensive food, or a beer in confinement at a table is NEVER worth the risk?

plato
plato
Reply to  Go.gi
2 months ago

Given that tier 4 is only coming into force from midnight tonight in certain areas there is currently NOBODY here “in droves” from tier 4. Stop scaremongering.

Geoff Havard
Geoff Havard
Reply to  plato
2 months ago

What a fool believes. YOU may sleep better at night by going Egyptian, (in de Nile) but the rest of us realise the serious danger that these high risk PEOPLE are bringing to our shores now.

plato
plato
Reply to  Geoff Havard
2 months ago

Yawn, another burner ID from the forum fool.

William-Reynolds
William-Reynolds
Reply to  plato
2 months ago

plato, people like you are afraid to here the truth. Many many people are filling Bembridge who have come here to escape from high risk areas. Many Islanders go to Portsmouth shopping at this time, and many have something to eat or drink whilst there.

An AREA does not ‘have’ Cv. It is the PEOPLE from that area that ‘has’

So, all those coming from high risk areas, IF you drink or eat in the same establishment as them, are putting yourself in the same risk as if you went TO a high risk area.

Grow up, face the facts and truth and stop lulling the dim into a FALSE sense of safety.

Do YOU own a business and are afraid of losing cash?

plato
plato
Reply to  William-Reynolds
2 months ago

When you wrote your original post (yes we all know its you using yet another burner ID) it was factually incorrect – there was no tier 4 at the point – which was my point, seemingly passing WAY WAY over your idiotic head.Still, carry on being a scaremonger.

Last edited 2 months ago by plato
Nath
Nath
Reply to  Go.gi
2 months ago

With any luck us ‘tier 4 people’ will barricade the mainland to stop you inbreds coming to the city.

Benny
Benny
Reply to  The Equaliser
2 months ago

Shame on Warner’s – Norton the same

Boris
Boris
Reply to  The Equaliser
2 months ago

How do these hotels get away with it cant they be fined I think all passengers at the ports should be checked

Aaron
Aaron
2 months ago

I am meant to be returning home from holiday tomorrow via Portsmouth, be nice if they could let me know if I can get a boat or not.

Dog-Paw
Dog-Paw
Reply to  Aaron
2 months ago

Shouldn’t have come

Jeff
Jeff
Reply to  Aaron
2 months ago

You went on holiday during a global pandemic??!?!!??
You deserve to get the virus you idiot!!!

David
David
2 months ago

Shut the borders now!
Life is too precious to risk.

Go.gi
Go.gi
Reply to  David
2 months ago

The ferry ports should have an old house boat towed and dumped in them, the airports should be ploughed up and any harbours should be surrounded by wild dogs. Anything less and we will have the most awful 2021. The mutation is more serious than we are being told hence the panic now.

SRichards
SRichards
Reply to  Go.gi
2 months ago

Get a grip it has a 99+% recovery rate,it’s sheep like you panicking believing everything the msm and awful government tells you running for tests at a slight sniffle that are keeping this charade going

Dog-Paw
Dog-Paw
Reply to  SRichards
2 months ago

NOT with the new mutanted strain. Young at risk now

Pompy blue
Pompy blue
Reply to  David
2 months ago

Be quiet we live in a democracy not China you fool.

Dave
Dave
2 months ago

Who will stop Portsmouth crowds from coming over here ? The ferries should check peoples ID, if not a resident, do not let them onboard.. ! Because if we go into national lockdown, ferry companies will also suffer more !
Help keep Island safe !

Jim
Jim
2 months ago

When the government tells you not too panic. PANIC

Gaz B.Sc.
Gaz B.Sc.
2 months ago

What a bloody waste of time YET AGAIN. What the hell is the point of making tier areas and then make no laws or restrictions to stop people traveling to other tiers.Lets just see how much Bullshi* Boris stays in No10 or any of his cronies for that matter stay at home after telling US WE have to. Not one of them will, we can guarantee that, those rules won’t include them. We would not be in situation now if they had all acted sooner at the first incidents of infection. Lets see how soon the visitors to the Island are stopped coming here from tiers 2,3 and 4 by pulling the ferries. We know it won’t happen so no point being in a lower tier

Pompy blue
Pompy blue
2 months ago

I’m from Portsmouth and were going to the isle of wight with 33 of my friends to have a few beers tonight…

Smithy
Smithy
Reply to  Pompy blue
2 months ago

Good luck as most pubs are now asking for proof of address id for tier 3 and 4

Dog-Paw
Dog-Paw
Reply to  Smithy
2 months ago

All own printers, no staff will argue so long as id of dubious sorts is shown

she
she
Reply to  Pompy blue
2 months ago

then your an ass hole

Reality check
Reality check
2 months ago

Feel free to surround the Fishbourne ferry terminal with pitch forks. How do you think your post, food and fuel will continue to arrive if you stop the ferries?
If you want to stop people arriving then get the IOW council and Hampshire constabulary to police it.

Dog-Paw
Dog-Paw
Reply to  Reality check
2 months ago

Quite EASY to see a huge Tesco etc Lorry loaded with food, or a new 4×4 with London plates.

THINK

Just Sayin’
Just Sayin’
2 months ago

It will be illegal to travel to or from a tier 4 Portsmouth. Therefore there will be nobody on the Portsmouth to Fishbourne ferries nor the Fastcat or Hovercrafts so all those services will be cancelled.

Reality check
Reality check
Reply to  Just Sayin’
2 months ago

We live on an island. The ferries carry everything we need to live, not just people. How do you think your food, fuel and post get to you?

Paul
Paul
Reply to  Reality check
2 months ago

Do you know the difference between essential and nonessential travel ?

Reality check
Reality check
Reply to  Paul
2 months ago

Indeed I do, which is why a vehicle ferry service has continued to run all year to keep our supermarket shelves stocked and my car full of fuel. Suggesting that Portsmouth moving to tier 4 means ferries stop, has nothing to do with essential vs non essential. Individuals obeying the rules is where essential vs non essential matters

Dog-Paw
Dog-Paw
Reply to  Reality check
2 months ago

A lorry is EASY to spot, as is a new 4×4 with London plates etc

Ziggy
Ziggy
Reply to  Dog-Paw
2 months ago

Oh come on, you must know all London plates then! I understand everything you say but plates are not an indication in any way. Give us an example then since you know it all? If my vehicle is registered in central London, what would my plate be? Will it be different from Middlesex? Or south London? Or even Hertfordshire? Get a grip, cars are registered all over the country, you may not have had many new cars but as a company car driver, your plate bears no recognition as to where you live!!!!

Benny
Benny
Reply to  Ziggy
2 months ago

Spot on regards registration plates.. my son in law is an islander, his car has London plates, he bought the motor from there as it was a good deal compared to what was on offer from here.

Foxboy
Foxboy
Reply to  Paul
2 months ago

You can’t stop ferries a lot of people commute to mainland and via versa.Plus not enough police to enforce and if they do all the drug dealers and cri minals will have a field day.

Munch
Munch
Reply to  Reality check
2 months ago

Cargo can all come over on red funnels new cargo ferry. It says no one is to travel in or out of a level 4 zone .so if wightlink carry on they should be fined heavily for putting their passengers and islanders at risk where is there duty of care

Biker55
Biker55
Reply to  Munch
2 months ago

Actually fine to travel through a tier 4 area as long as don’t stop for something. Example the M27/A27 goes through Portsmouth and Havant tier 4 zones so do you expect no traffic to be allowed to go on that road?

So therefore it’s fine to travel and just don’t get out car while at the port.

Last edited 2 months ago by Biker55
Dog-Paw
Dog-Paw
Reply to  Biker55
2 months ago

It is the people carrying CV NOT the postcode.

Now our pubs will be as infected as if we were in tier 4 IF as they are in Bembridge, Seaview etc, filled with people FROM those high risk areas.

They will leave, and then, and ONLY then will locals and the staff start to fall victim.

Still the boss will have a full ’till’ so, people are easy to replace. WHAT an attitude.

Avoid all places until two weeks after the DFLs have gone imo.

Smithy
Smithy
Reply to  Munch
2 months ago

What about people who are travelling to work? It’s not that simple to transfer all cargo to Southampton either.

Lin
Lin
Reply to  Munch
2 months ago

Totally agree

John
John
Reply to  Munch
2 months ago

Some people want to travel through no to.

Rik
Rik
Reply to  Reality check
2 months ago

Are you sure? I get my food and fuel from Asda

Smithy
Smithy
Reply to  Rik
2 months ago

And Asda manufacture and produce all their own food and fuel don’t they!!

tipper
tipper
Reply to  Rik
2 months ago

It all comes over on the ferry

Dave Martinson
Dave Martinson
Reply to  Rik
2 months ago

Yer sure Rik Asda have magical fairy’s that make the fuel and food on the island

ian johnson
ian johnson
Reply to  Reality check
2 months ago

Quite simple–via Southampton; NOT Portsmouth !!!!!!!

John
John
Reply to  ian johnson
2 months ago

What and then drive through Portsmouth to get to Brighton or somewhere east like that? Whats the difference?

Sunnysideup
Sunnysideup
Reply to  Reality check
2 months ago

From Southampton…

Just Sayin’
Just Sayin’
Reply to  Reality check
2 months ago

Essential services can come from Southampton which is in tier 3. Red Funnel have a dedicated ferry for freight.

Perky
Perky
Reply to  Reality check
2 months ago

Fuel comes from a barge as well. Food could come across as normal as island based tractor units can collect from ferry same as usual in some cases.

Stewart Battersby
Stewart Battersby
Reply to  Just Sayin’
2 months ago

How is it illigal if its not even a law? its a requirment they are trying to demand its not a law! perhaps you should do what they say and never come to main land and stay on your tinyisland and do the world a favor you moron

Wenjamhay
Wenjamhay
Reply to  Just Sayin’
2 months ago

Not actually illegal to travel if you’re part of a support bubble.

Brian
Brian
Reply to  Just Sayin’
2 months ago

But people can still travel for work or education and ferry operators can’t legally question why people travel.

John
John
Reply to  Just Sayin’
2 months ago

But what if you are travelling through Portsmouth to go to somewhere else? All the discussions seem to focus on going to or leaving Portsmouth.

Nelson
Nelson
2 months ago

Islanders wishing to do last-minute shopping should go to Southampton?
That sort of advice is what’s leading to over forty shops in Newport closing down!
SHOP LOCAL, please and stay safe. Have a pleasant ‘little’ Christmas.

Rog
Rog
Reply to  Nelson
2 months ago

Shop local

Perky
Perky
Reply to  Rog
2 months ago

Where? Unless you want no choice and pay over the odds it’s cheaper in Southampton or online.

Smithy
Smithy
Reply to  Perky
2 months ago

Not always more expensive especially when you factor in the travel costs and time and most of the cheap shops over there sell tat.

John-Roy Singleton
John-Roy Singleton
2 months ago

Bit late with the restrictions. Too many people have been fired over the holidays due to covid. Bring on the freedom!

isla wight
isla wight
2 months ago

Boris says stay away. IW council and ferries say c’mon everyone, there’s still time to get across.

Mandy
Mandy
Reply to  isla wight
2 months ago

It’s like shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted, just have to hope the pubs and restaurants do their bit.

JEFF GIBBS
JEFF GIBBS
2 months ago

do not let this goverment divide us
all the MPS are now in their holiday homes in tier 1

Ben Alton
Ben Alton
Reply to  JEFF GIBBS
2 months ago

Ooh errr. Sounds a bit political.

Sandy Vel
Sandy Vel
Reply to  JEFF GIBBS
2 months ago

What complete Bozo came up with this plan? It’s not just Portsmouth. Londoners have finally found something they’d like to share with the country. You should see the M3 rammed after yesterday’s announcement. Londoners are fleeing the capital in droves carrying their “plague” with them. It would have been better for the government to keep tiers as they were until after Christmas – instead it’s getting spread all over the country so we’ll all end up in tier 4.

colin brooker
colin brooker
2 months ago

There are many front line workers who travel to and from the island in both directions.

Rob
Rob
2 months ago

Great all those saying stop the ferries and no one should travel that’s fine as long as they will pay my mortgage and feed my children some of us have no option but to go to work

Mars
Mars
2 months ago

What if my partner is a doctor and needed my assistance? I’m in tier 1 but has 2 meetings till Monday-can I still travel to Emsworth Monday afternoon?

Vanboz
Vanboz
2 months ago

You will be fine, you got David Icke.

Samantha Downey
Samantha Downey
2 months ago

Stop the ferries in the evenings

Smithy
Smithy
Reply to  Samantha Downey
2 months ago

Essential workers do shifts often nights

Dog-Paw
Dog-Paw
Reply to  Smithy
2 months ago

Pay for a room over there then

ron
ron
2 months ago

Why is it is possible to book a Warners holiday on the island for end of December using a
London address??

Jam shed .
Jam shed .
Reply to  ron
2 months ago

Because we don’t live in Nazi Germany .

Gungadin
Gungadin
Reply to  Jam shed .
2 months ago

My grandparents made sure of that.

AMA
AMA
2 months ago

What, Wightlink and Red Funnel have the authority like Calmac who stopped those travelling between other Scottish islands and the Scottish mainland for unnecessary reasons before. So why not out ferries. Errr . Seeley MP, where is your backbone. Wightlink and Red
funnel also show some backbone.

Perky
Perky
Reply to  AMA
2 months ago

Because he is mixed in with them! He won’t get his kickbacks if he stops them!

Biker55
Biker55
Reply to  AMA
2 months ago

Because they are public services backed by the government. Our ferries are not.

Munch
Munch
Reply to  AMA
2 months ago

Seely hasn’t got a backbone he’s got a backhander

Jam shed .
Jam shed .
2 months ago

Perhaps they should have ID numbers tattooed on their arms and a patch sewn onto their clothes as well ? Oh wait a minute .

Chris
Chris
Reply to  Jam shed .
2 months ago

Sounds like a good idea to me.

Benny
Benny
2 months ago

If you’re not posting as a wind up then you’re a very selfish individual, which is probably the same attitude as folk who live in your neck of the woods – that’s why you’re in a high level, as you won’t change your attitudes for anyone.
Let’s hope you or your family friends don’t get COVID, however you may well change your mind set if you or they do.

Back in the Day
Back in the Day
Reply to  Benny
2 months ago

I hope his family and friends DO get it, it’ll be on his conscience for the rest of his life. Kharma.

Hcrookes
Hcrookes
2 months ago

All boats shouldn’t be letting anyone over!

Joking
Joking
2 months ago

Don’t suppose this is a good time to mention the Fixed Link Campaign.

Ziggy
Ziggy
Reply to  Joking
2 months ago

Ha, yes please, more social distancing than a ferry xx

Mike Oxlong
Mike Oxlong
2 months ago

Are you locaaaaal !!!

Gaz B.Sc.
Gaz B.Sc.
2 months ago

Ok if it’s ok for them to travel here from high tiers spreading it, then it’s ok for us to meet up with our families in the same low tier. Why should we be stopped our Christmas enjoyment and they be allowed to come here living up theirs.WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A FAMILY CHRISTMAS. We are doing nothing wrong THEY ARE.

Benny
Benny
2 months ago

What about the shooting parties due here this week – bet that’s still on …. money money money

John
John
2 months ago

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